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PFP293 | Benjamin Marks, On H.L. Mencken as a Libertarian Model (PFS 2012)

Property and Freedom Podcast, Episode 293.

Benjamin Marks (Australia), On H.L. Mencken as a Libertarian Model.

This lecture is from the 2012 meeting of the Property and Freedom Society. PFS 2012 Playlist. Text of article on which the speech was based is below; docx; pdf. Speech. Transcript also below.

Grok summary of article: H.L. Mencken’s conservatism, as explored in Benjamin Marks’ essay, is a defining trait that sets him apart as a libertarian thinker who held low expectations for societal reform. Unlike typical conservatism, Mencken’s brand is rooted in a deep skepticism of government and religion, viewing them as historically optimistic overreaches that clash with true conservative doubt. He saw many societal problems as insoluble or unlikely to be addressed due to human folly, yet found entertainment in the pretentiousness of events and the futility of reform efforts. His libertarianism was not driven by a desire to convert others but by a commitment to truth, expressed through sharp, clear prose that prioritized self-expression over activism.

Mencken’s approach was neither nihilistic nor despairing; he embraced the world’s flaws with a light-hearted cynicism, finding joy in critiquing its absurdities without expecting change. He believed people’s gullibility and resistance to reason made libertarian ideals unattainable in the near term, a view reinforced by his observations of failed revolutions and reforms that often worsened conditions. Marks argues that Mencken’s consistent, principled stance—free of moral indignation—offers libertarians a radical perspective: not as a competing utopianism, but as a clear-eyed rejection of romantic solutions. His influence, though significant in literature and culture, never popularized libertarianism, underscoring his realism about human nature and societal inertia.
Grok summary of transcript:
Two-Paragraph Summary for Show Notes
0:00–9:00The speaker begins by expressing gratitude for being invited to the Property and Freedom Society conference, acknowledging the late Neville Kennard, fervent supporter who passed away in June. Kennard, despite his frail condition, remained passionate about libertarianism, wearing Rothbard “Enemy of the State” shirt during the speaker’s visit. The speaker introduces the topic, “H.L. Mencken as Libertarian Model,” contrasting Mencken’s approach with Murray Rothbard’s. Mencken, unlike Rothbard, had no expectations of influencing society, viewing politics as entertainment and government as pathetic yet amusing. His pessimism, rooted in reason, led him to describe himself as “specialist in human depravity,” focusing on diagnosing societal flaws rather than proposing solutions. This perspective, the speaker argues, is more realistic than Rothbard’s optimistic belief in long-term libertarian revolution, as outlined in Rothbard’s 1965 essay, which the speaker dismisses as clichéd romanticism.
9:01–19:38The speaker critiques libertarian optimism by addressing common arguments, such as the internet’s role in spreading libertarian ideas or the belief that economic crises will awaken people to libertarianism. Mencken’s responses, as interpreted by the speaker, highlight counterpoints: easy access to statist propaganda negates the internet’s benefits, and crises often lead to more government intervention. The speaker also challenges the romanticism of Albert J. Nock’s concept of the “remnant,” quoting Nock to show his own pessimism about societal change. Marcus Aurelius is cited to underscore the futility of expecting posthumous recognition. The speaker concludes by suggesting that libertarians can still find joy in critiquing government absurdities, as evidenced by the lively PFS speakers. For optimists, the speaker humorously recommends following Gina Rinehart, wealthy Australian secessionist, as potential catalyst for libertarian progress, while emphasizing Mencken’s view that libertarianism is about personal enjoyment, not necessarily societal change.

It was not included previously in the podcast since the video had been lost and I had assumed the audio had also been lost. However, I recently discovered the audio files for two of the speeches as well as Professor Hoppe’s Introductory and Concluding remarks had been preserved, namely those listed below. They are podcast here for the first time.

  • Hans-Hermann Hoppe (Germany/Turkey), Welcome and Introductions
  • Karl-Peter Schwarz (Austria), Between Restitution and Re-Expropriation: Desocialization in Eastern Europe
  • Benjamin Marks (Australia), On H.L. Mencken as a Libertarian Model
  • Hans-Hermann Hoppe, Concluding Remarks, Tributes, and Announcements

Grok summary of transcript:

Detailed Segment-by-Segment Summary for Show Notes
Segment 1: Introduction and Tribute to Neville Kennard (0:00–3:00)
  • Description: The speaker opens with gratitude for speaking at the Property and Freedom Society conference, noting their unfamiliarity among the distinguished lineup. They pay tribute to Neville Kennard, a libertarian supporter who died in June, recalling his enthusiasm despite being bedbound, wearing a Rothbard “Enemy of the State” shirt. The speaker shares an anecdote about visiting Kennard to recount last year’s PFS events, highlighting his passion for the society.
  • Summary: This segment sets a personal tone, honoring Kennard’s dedication to libertarianism and establishing the speaker’s connection to the PFS community. It foreshadows the talk’s focus on libertarian perspectives by referencing Rothbard early on.
Segment 2: Mencken’s Libertarian Model vs. Rothbard’s Optimism (3:01–9:00)
  • Description: The speaker introduces the talk’s theme, “H.L. Mencken as a Libertarian Model,” contrasting Mencken’s lack of ambition to influence with Rothbard’s optimistic vision of a libertarian revolution. Mencken’s quotes reveal his view of politics as entertainment and government as “pathetic, obscene, and criminal” but not intolerable, describing himself as a “specialist in human depravity.” The speaker critiques Rothbard’s 1965 essay advocating long-term optimism as romantic nonsense, arguing Mencken’s reasoned pessimism is more justified.
  • Summary: This segment establishes Mencken’s unique libertarian approach—detached, observational, and pessimistic—against Rothbard’s hopeful activism. It frames the talk’s central argument that Mencken’s realism is a more grounded model for libertarians.
Segment 3: Critiquing Romantic Libertarian Arguments (9:01–12:00)
  • Description: The speaker addresses common libertarian arguments for optimism, such as the internet’s role in spreading ideas, economic crises leading to libertarian awakenings, and historical victories like slavery’s abolition. Mencken’s counterpoints, as voiced by the speaker, highlight flaws: statist propaganda overshadows libertarian outreach, crises increase state power, and slavery’s abolition doesn’t negate ongoing forms of coercion. Examples like the minimum wage’s global rise and Rand Paul’s less principled stance compared to Ron Paul underscore the difficulty of libertarian progress.
  • Summary: This segment systematically dismantles optimistic libertarian narratives, using Mencken’s lens to argue that systemic barriers and human nature thwart significant change, reinforcing the speaker’s alignment with Mencken’s pessimism.
Segment 4: Debunking Nock’s Remnant and Historical Perspectives (12:01–16:00)
  • Description: The speaker challenges the romanticism of Albert J. Nock’s “remnant” concept, quoting Nock to reveal his own doubts about long-term influence. Marcus Aurelius is cited to critique the hope of posthumous recognition, and Mencken’s similar views question posterity’s judgment. Extensive Nock quotes emphasize his belief that societal improvement is nearly impossible due to human limitations and statism’s entrenched power, suggesting revolutions merely replace one form of oppression with another.
  • Summary: This segment deepens the critique of libertarian optimism by showing that even Nock, a revered figure, shared Mencken’s pessimism. It underscores the futility of expecting systemic change, aligning with Mencken’s detached enjoyment of societal flaws.
Segment 5: Enjoying Libertarianism Without Expectations (16:01–19:38)
  • Description: The speaker argues that libertarians can find joy in critiquing government absurdities without needing to influence others, citing the lively PFS speakers like Jeffrey Tucker as evidence. Marcus Aurelius and Nock are referenced again to highlight the spectacle of human folly as inherently entertaining. For optimists, the speaker humorously suggests following Gina Rinehart, a wealthy secessionist, as a potential libertarian catalyst. The talk concludes with Mencken’s view that libertarianism is about personal enjoyment, not necessarily progress, encouraging attendees to revel in the PFS experience.
  • Summary: This final segment ties the talk together, advocating for Mencken’s approach of finding amusement in libertarian critique without expecting societal change. It offers a lighthearted nod to optimists while reinforcing the core message of intellectual enjoyment over activism.
Note: The segment lengths vary (3–7 minutes) to align with natural shifts in the talk’s content, ensuring each block covers a cohesive topic or argument.

Mencken’s Conservatism

by Benjamin Marks, Economics.org.au editor-in-chief

I. Abstract

Why did H.L. Mencken, the most eloquent and popular of libertarians, have the lowest of expectations for libertarian reform?

One might think that grappling with this question would be a prerequisite of libertarian activism.

One might also think that libertarians would show Mencken — whom they hold in high regard — the respect of dealing with his reasoning, just as they do to statists — whom they do not hold in high regard.

Mencken found such situations amusing, predictable and inoperable.

II. Introduction and Overview

This essay emphasises Mencken’s conservatism above his other characteristics, as it is his primary distinguishing feature and the main reason he is misunderstood. His libertarianism — which overlaps with his conservatism — is also misunderstood, but plenty of literature is available defending libertarianism, whereas there is comparatively little intentionally defending conservatism.

Rarely is conservatism even acknowledged as having anything to do with reason, as something that could be right or wrong, justified or unjustified, probable or improbable. Usually it is uncritically dismissed as skeptical, iconoclastic, irreverent, curmudgeonly, eccentric, outspoken, opinionated, independent, sardonic, pessimistic, cynical, bitter and dated. Mencken is described in those terms — which are more comparative and superficial than descriptive and explanatory — far more often than he is described as correct and critical, or, for that matter, as incorrect and uncritical.

Mencken is not just different. He does not merely have a valid point of view. His conservatism is not a blind faith in pessimism; it was not of immaculate conception. It is not pessimystic. His viewpoint can be analysed, not only to compare his conclusions with your own, but to compare his reasoning too.

Mencken was a conservative. He doubted the goodness, honesty and truth of all government and any religion. Despite the difference between this and what is usually called conservatism, this is the true conservatism. After all, government and religion, being proactive, hope-fuelled and high-expectation responses to whatever the situation happened to be at the time of their founding, are merely examples of historical anticonservatism.

In addition to a critical predisposition and lack of faith, Mencken’s conservatism is also an unashamed appreciation of the entertainment provided by: (1) the pretentiousness of both historical and current events; and (2) the hollowness of attempted improvements, including those that will fail due to irrevocable economic laws — that is, socialistic interventions into the market —, and those that will fail due to unpopularity — that is, reforms that would work, if only the populace were not so stubbornly stupid.

To rephrase and reframe, Mencken believed: (a) that many problems are insoluble; (b) that many other problems have solutions that would work, but are unlikely to be adopted; (c) that “problems” are often misidentified, or exaggerated in both severity and urgency; (d) that “solutions” are rarely as useful as their believers claim; (e) that if people have free will, they rarely use it wisely and are predictably corruptible, gullible and unreflective; (f) that there will always be “do-gooders” who try to do the impossible and unlikely, and are blindly enthusiastic about their chances; (g) that these “do-gooders” often sink to the level they try to get others to rise above; (h) that not much can be done about these “do-gooders,” and it is usually best not to; (i) that all this has been the case in the past and will be so in the future; and (j) that all this is fun to witness and proclaim.

Mencken’s fervour was this-worldly. His cynicism was light-hearted and deeply-felt. His pessimism was upbeat and vigilant. His paranoia was fuelled by neither hope nor fear. His crusade against error and injustice was devoid of envy. He was passionate and questioning and resigned and satisfied.

This position is almost always confused with what it is not. Even those who hold such beliefs often find explaining themselves, or keeping silent, too difficult and inconvenient, requiring more intelligence than they possess or independence than they can muster. Acceptance concerns them more than honesty or education. They categorise their behaviour using categories and clichés they have come across, rather than their own immediate sincere reflections. Lacking the language necessary to express themselves or the discipline necessary to be silent until they find the right words, they either cease interest altogether in what gave them these difficulties, or classify themselves as something they are not. If they do the latter, they often change their beliefs until they share all the views of the group that they, originally incorrectly, classed themselves with. Consider, for example, the descriptions in the previous paragraph, how rarely you find the terms therein collocated, your initial reaction — which may have been that they are contradictory – and your reappraisal — which may be that it actually makes surprisingly good sense.

Mencken’s inventive language, ducking and weaving of unhelpful idioms, and enlarged vocabulary, do much to explain why his beliefs go beyond, say, the professed faith in democracy, whatever that means, of others; and why his prose is, as he said, “clear and alive.” For example:

The imbeciles who have printed acres of comment on my books have seldom noticed the chief character of my style. It is that I write with almost scientific precision — that my meaning is never obscure. The ignorant have often complained that my vocabulary is beyond them, but that is simply because my ideas cover a wider range than theirs do. Once they have consulted the dictionary they always know exactly what I intend to say. I am as far as any writer can get from the muffled sonorities of, say, John Dewey.[1]

III. Mencken’s Motives and Expectations

In this essay, I quote many passages from Mencken’s writings, not despite their similarities, but because of them. Where I find different eloquent passages where he makes the same point, I include them all, because that itself makes many a point. Specifically, it provides evidence for these controversial and unpopular beliefs: (1) that a critical, cynical and pessimistic person can sincerely enjoy holding and expressing critical, cynical and pessimistic beliefs; (2) that such beliefs need be no disincentive to productivity or obstacle to satisfaction; (3) that a low opinion is justified of the reading public, including attempts to educate them; and (4) that a low opinion is also justified of the government the reading public is part of and supports.

Mencken was published prolifically in popular places, yet most of his beliefs were still misunderstood. Even if his aim was not primarily to educate the masses, critics will have a tough time finding where his low opinion of the masses is wrong and what he could have done better to educate them — for example, could his prose have had more appeal, bite, clarity, directness or eloquence, and could he have repeated his viewpoint more?

Mencken believed that readers didn’t only need to be given a message once, but that it was unlikely they would get it at all. He repeatedly made the same observations simply for the sake of art, habit and amusement. He wrote on pedagogical, political and moral issues without any pedagogical, political or moral purpose. He was a critic of novels, but he never wrote one. He was a critic of America’s defence policy, but he was not a German spy. He was a critic of Presidents, but he never became one. His objectivity made him suspect, because reason is rarely comprehended, and is not represented by any political party, job description, university qualification or cultural group. It also explains why many people failed to see that, despite never writing a novel, running for office or launching a revolution, he still had many good ideas for those who did.

Leading by example means your followers are looking at the back of your head. Mencken faced up to people, and told them what he was thinking.

Mencken was a libertarian theorist of the highest rank, but only an incidental activist. He did not believe that he could be a successful activist, and it was not one of his primary aims. He advocated libertarianism because that was what he believed to be the truth, not because he thought it was attainable, or something people wanted to, needed to or should hear. More than an academic, activist or job-holder, he considered himself an artist or animal, someone “diseased” with the thirst for truth and aesthetic sense.[2]

Here is some autobiographical insight from Mencken:

[A]n author, like any other so-called artist, is a man in whom the normal vanity of all men is so vastly exaggerated that he finds it a sheer impossibility to hold it in … Such is the thing called self-expression … The vanity of man is quite illimitable. In every act of life, however trivial, and particularly in every act which pertains to his profession, he takes all the pride of a baby learning to walk. It may seem incredible but it is nevertheless a fact that I myself get great delight out of writing such banal paragraphs as this one.[3]

I have never tried to convert anyone to anything. Like any other man bawling from a public stamp I have occasionally made a convert; in fact, in seasons when my embouchure has been good I have made a great many. But not deliberately, not with any satisfaction … I am, in fact, the complete anti-Messiah, and detest converts as much as I detest missionaries. My writings, such as they are, have had only one purpose: to attain for H.L. Mencken that feeling of tension relieved and function achieved which a cow enjoys on giving milk.[4]

IV. Mencken’s Conservatism and Christianity

In perhaps the best distillation of Mencken’s conservatism, he suggested everyone live not quite sober and not quite drunk, but “gently stewed.” He explained what this solution entails:

Putting a brake upon all the qualities which enable us to get on in the world and shine before our fellows — for example, combativeness, shrewdness, diligence, ambition —, it releases the qualities which mellow us and make our fellows love us — for example, amiability, generosity, toleration, humor, sympathy. A man who has taken aboard two or three cocktails is less competent than he was before to steer a battleship down the Ambrose Channel, or to cut off a leg, or to draw a deed of trust, or to conduct Bach’s B minor mass, but he is immensely more competent to entertain a dinner party, or to admire a pretty girl, or to hear Bach’s B minor mass.[21]

Footnotes

[1] H.L. Mencken, Minority Report (Baltimore, Maryland: The John Hopkins University Press, 2006), p. 293.

[2] H.L. Mencken, A Mencken Chrestomathy (New York: Vintage, 1982), pp. 442-49; see also H.L. Mencken, Prejudices: Fourth Series (New York: Octagon Books, 1985), pp. 269-77. A note on my referencing of Mencken: Much, but not all, of his work has been reprinted in many different essay versions and compilations. I only reference one location for each specific passage, based on my estimate of: (1) its most popular current location; and (2) where the best relevant discussion is. The Chrestomathies often include only part of a larger discussion, sometimes excising the best bits. I may reference and quote multiple locations for where Mencken makes the same point, but only ever one location when he makes the same point in the same way, as per the two criteria explained in the previous sentence.

[3] A Mencken Chrestomathy, p. 466; and H.L. Mencken, A Second Mencken Chrestomathy, ed. Terry Teachout (New York: Knopf, 1995), p. 489; see also H.L. Mencken, In Defense of Women (New York: Knopf, 1927), pp. 77-78.

[4] A Second Mencken Chrestomathy, pp. 483-84, 491. The second half of the paragraph Mencken wrote for use in his obituary.

[21] A Mencken Chrestomathy, pp. 388-89.

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TRANSCRIPT

looking through the amazing list of

speakers for this conference the only

name I don’t recognize is my own So it’s

a great privilege to be here Um and

thanks also to the late Neville Kennard

who was a big supporter and fan of the

Propriy and Freedom Society Um and died

in June this year Uh for a while at the

end he was bedbound at his country

property He was quite weak and frail and

surrounded with sheets and blankets But

when I came in he set up to see me and

the blankets fell away and he was

wearing his Rothbard enemy of the state

shirt Um Nev had to cancel his

attendance at last year’s PFS meeting

for medical reasons So the morning after

I arrived back in Australia after last

year’s PFS I drove down to his country

property to tell him what he missed Um

he invited me for breakfast but you know

we had so much to talk about that I

stayed for lunch and dinner and uh you

know all talking about all of you and he

was very interested and so now that he

has an even better excuse not to be here

I I guess I will have to report back to

him at even greater length Um also I’m

very sorry that Richard Lynn could not

be here I was uh very much looking

forward to his speech

Now the title of my talk is HL Menin as

a libertarian model What makes Menin as

a libertarian model so different from

other libertarian models like Rothbart

is that Menin had no expectation

whatsoever of being

influential But this did not in any way

stunt Menin’s productivity and passion

as a libertarian theorist and

stirer Because to quote Menin quote “An

author like any other so-called artist

is a man in whom the normal vanity of

all men is so vastly exaggerated that he

finds it a sheer impossibility to hold

it in such as the thing called

self-exression The vanity of man is

quite illimitable In every act of life

however trivial and particularly in

every act which pertains to his

profession he takes all the pride of a

baby learning to walk It may seem

incredible but it is nevertheless a fact

that I myself get great delight out of

writing such banal paragraphs as this

one End quote So men considered politics

a genre of entertainment and he

considered the corruption of politics

merely as ad breaks He thought

government pathetic obscene and criminal

but not hideous intolerable or in

unsightly As Menin said of his

libertarianism quote “My business is not

prognosis but diagnosis I am not engaged

in therapeutics but in pathology I am

not in fact protesting against anything

I am simply describing something not

even in sorrow but simply as a

specialist in human

depravity.” Such spectacles do not make

me indignant They simply interest me

immensely as a pathologist say is

interested by a beautiful gastric ulcer

It is perhaps a strange taste that is in

a country of reformers but there it is

end quote So the phrase specialist in

human depravity is quite brilliant I

think I mean think back to all the

speakers we have heard over the past few

days I think it is more descriptive to

call them all specialists in human

depravity rather than historians or

economists or journalists or or whatever

Um so Menin’s low expectations are I

think are much more justified than

Rothbart’s high expectations of future

long-term libertarian revolution uh or

pro progress In the 1965 essay The

Prospects of Liberty in the first issue

of Rothbard’s journal Left and Right

Mari Rothbud writes quote “While the

short-run prospects for liberty at home

and abroad may seem dim the proper

attitude for the libertarian to take is

that of unquenchable long-run optimism

For the libertarian the main task of the

present epoch is to cast off his

needless and debilitating pessimism to

set his sights on long run victory and

to set out on the road to its

attainment.” Now to me this is the most

cliched romantic rubbish It is just like

saying that positive thinking helps cure

cancer In fact it’s even worse than that

because Rothbart is saying that things

will get better in the long run even

though they won’t in the short term And

even worse it shows that Rothbide

totally ignored the fact that Menin’s

pessimism was entirely based in reason

It was not a baseless attitude Um

incidentally as an aside all men’s

biographers have failed to acknowledge

this central fact

Also however what Rothbud said makes

perfect sense If your aim in being a

libertarian activist is

exclusively to persuade and influence

others if persuading and influencing is

your exclusive aim then you must be

optimistic that you will persuade and

influence Otherwise you would not be a

libertarian activist But why would you

be optimistic that you can persuade and

influence

others here are some common answers that

many romantic libertarians use

accompanied by manennian

response responses Um so romantic

libertarians like to say that the

internet age is different because now

everyone has everyone has such easy

access to libertarian

propaganda But menians think that is

more than canceled out by there also

being easy access to status

propaganda Um romantic libertarians like

to say that government inter

intervention has become so extreme that

the economic situation will result in

people finally seeing the light and

becoming libertarians But menians think

it is more likely that hyperinflations

and depressions result in increased

government intervention and more

misplaced blame on on capitalism Um

romantic libertarians like to say that

slavery was abolished even though the

so-called realists said we should just

regulate the slave trade So they use

this to show that we should be radical

in abolishing taxes government

departments etc as they amount to forced

labor which is slavery But do you know

what this argument also says it admits

that actually we still have slavery

So

uh and like um so the radicals did not

succeed Um but I still like to use that

argument I think it’s a you know great

argument But

just in fact in the latest edition of

capitalism.hk which is on the book table

I uh I feature Robert Higgs using that

argument Um

uh and romantic libertarians like to say

that the minimum wage is a great example

of economic reasoning and the best way

to to successfully introduce people to

libertarian thought But what the case of

the minimum wage also proves is that an

ever growing number of countries all

around the world are implementing and

increasing the minimum wage including

Hong Kong which has just introduced the

minimum wage So in light of the

widespread and growing popularity of so

obvious a calamity as the minimum wage

how can anyone be optimistic for any

libertarian progress in more complicated

areas like surely minimum wage reform

would be the first place we’d see it if

it was a if it was coming Also Ron Paul

has attracted huge passionate and

growing following which is leading many

people to take to make all sorts of

romantic predictions But if Ron Paul is

so likely to s succeed how is it that

someone who owes Ron Paul so much as a

son does his father and has been

subjected to more of Ron Paul’s

arguments than anyone else namely his

most political child Randpaul is far

less principled than his father and many

of his supporters who have such high

expectations of of where the Ronpor

movement will lead Um libertarians often

show one one more example

of libertarian romanticism

uh libertarians often show that

governments of the past that are today

considered to be tyrannical and

unpopular even by the establishment

share the same characteristics with

popular governments today that are

considered to be free and popular With

this argument romantic libertarians hope

to bring about a widespread

enlightenment enlightenment which will

lead to a more just free and prosperous

society But their observation also

teaches something quite different which

libertarians often fail to acknowledge

As men can point it out quote “The fact

is that some of the things that men and

women have desired most ardently for

thousands of years are not near a

realization today than they were in the

time of Rammeses and that there is not

the slightest reason for believing that

they will lose their coiness on any near

tomorrow Plans for hurrying them over

have been tried since the beginning

Plans for forcing them overnight are in

copious and antagonistic operation today

And yet they continue to hold off and

elude us and the chances are that they

will continue holding off and eluding

us To further communicate that Menin’s

pessimism was justified I think the most

effective thing would be for us to see

that Albert J No did not believe in the

remnant

Speaking to the remnant is long-term

romanticism which in a way is the most

extreme form of hopefilled romanticism

And Albert J No is the author of

Isaiah’s job the most referenced essay

pointing putting forward being

influential in the long term and

expecting that people will find you and

they will be convinced by what you say

eventually Um but before I quote no to

show that he himself did not believe in

the remnant no fa favorite author Marcus

Aurelius offered the best criticism of

those libertarian romantics like Murray

Rothbard who believed in the remnant and

are optimists for long-term libertarian

progress

Quote they are misunderstood by their

contemporaries the people whose lives

they share but they expect to be

understood by post posterity people

they’ve never met and never will that’s

what they set their hearts on You might

as well be upset at not being a hero to

your great-grandfather End quote And uh

Menin made a very similar comment to

Marcus Aurelius in a kind of a different

context but it’ll it’ll be clear Quote

“There is a notion that judgments of

living artists are impossible They are

bound to be corrupted we are told by

prejudice false perspective mob emotion

error The question whether this or that

man is great or small is one which only

posterity can answer a silly begging of

the question for doesn’t posterity also

make mistakes end quote So because of

how popular among libertarian circles

the myth of no as optimist and reformer

he is like even if it’s very long term I

will now read out several passages

showing that no himself did not believe

in Isaiah’s job To start with it is

worth noting that no himself in the

essay Isaiah’s job itself said “If I

were young and had the notion of

embarking in the prophetical line I

would certainly take up this branch of

the business aiming aiming at long-term

influence and expecting that those who

appreciate your work will eventually

find you and eventually lead to progress

in a libertarian direction And therefore

I have no hesitation about recommending

it as a career for anyone in that

position So anyone who’s young and

prophetical Um but no was not young when

he wrote it and he was not interested on

embarking on a career in the prophetical

line So when people talk of no’s remnant

they do not talk of a remnant that no

wrote intentionally for So here are some

more passages showing that no was

thoroughly pessimistic about the

prospects for

liberty Quote the only thing that the

psychically human being can do to

improve society is to present society

with one improved unit Very few among

mankind have either the force of

intellect to manage this method

intelligently or the force of character

to apply it constantly Hence if one

regards mankind as being what they are

the chances seem to be that the

deceptively easier way will continue to

prevail among them throughout an

indefinitely long

future It is easy to prescribe

improvement for others It is easy to

organize something to institutionalize

this or that to pass laws multiply

bureaucratic agencies form pressure

groups start revolutions change forms of

government tinker at political theory

The fact that these expedients have been

tried unsuccessfully in every

conceivable combination for 6,000 years

has not noticeably impaired a credulous

unintelligent willingness to keep on

trying them again and

again This being so it seems highly

probable that the hope for any

significant improvement of society must

be postponed End quote Here’s another

not paragraph quote “If it were in my

power to pull down its whole structure

overnight and set up another of my own

devising to abolish the state out of

hand and replace it by an organization

of the economic means I would not do it

for the minds of Americans are far from

fitted to any such great change as

this.” End quote Here’s another knock

paragraph Quote taking the sum of the

state’s physical strength with the force

of powerful spiritual influences behind

it one asks what can be done against the

state’s progress in self

agrandisement simply nothing So far from

encouraging any hopeful contemplation of

the unattainable the student of

civilized man will offer no conclusion

but that nothing can be done End quote

and another quote “Even a successful

revolution if such a thing were

conceivable against the military tyranny

which is statism’s last expedient would

accomplish nothing The people would be

as thoroughly indoctrinated with statism

after the revolution as they were before

and therefore the revolution would be no

revolution but a coup d’eta by which the

citizen would gain nothing but a mere

change for

presses There have been me many

revolutions in the last 25 years and

this has been the sum of their history

They amount to no more than an

impressive testimony to the great truth

that there can be no right action except

there be right thinking behind it As

long as the easy attractive superficial

philosophy of statism remains in control

of the citizen’s mind no bene bene

beneficent social change can be affected

whether by revolution or by any other

means End quote And one one last one

quote “Sometimes people who knew my

politics have wondered that I do not

crusade for it or even say much about it

but much more than a sound economic

system is necessary You have to have

sound people to work it.” The wise

social philosophers were those who

merely hung up their ideas and left them

hanging for men to look at or pass by as

they chose Jesus and Socrates did not

even trouble trouble to write theirs out

and Marcus Aurelius spoke his only

encrabed memoranda for his own use never

thinking anyone else would would see

them.” End quote So this passage

mentions Marcus Aurelius whom we quoted

earlier and no was

like no knock often said it’s his

favorite author Um so here’s another

Marcus Aurelius passage Quote evil the

same old thing Whatever happens keep

this in mind It’s the same old thing

from one end of the world to the other

It fills the history books ancient and

modern and the cities and the houses too

familiar transient Look at the past

Empire succeeding empire and from that

extrapolate the future the same thing No

escape from the rhythm of events Which

is why observing life for 40 years is as

good as a thousand Would you really see

anything new end

quote So that knock like Men enjoyed the

spectacle and was not disappointed by it

Here is one more knock passage Quote

“The war was detestable enough but the

anthropoid job holders who engineered it

and the masses whom they coerced and

exploited were doing the best that the

limitations of their nature admitted of

their doing and one could expect no more

than that There was even a certain grave

beauty such as one obser observes in a

battle of snakes or sharks in the

machinations which they continued which

which they contrived in order to fulfill

the law of their being One regarded

these creatures with aor ahorance Yes

Sometimes with boredom and annoyance yes

But with dis despondency and

disappointment no So yes sometimes as no

said pol politics fills meenians with

boredom Um but there aren’t many forms

of entertainment that don’t have

occasional slow patches and off days But

really I think everyone here can find

enough enjoyment in being a libertarian

theorist and stirer without needing

to think that they are helping people

and being

influential I don’t think I need to tell

anyone here how amu am amusing

government is I mean government does not

tax our our enjoyment It subsidizes it

Did Jeffrey Tucker look miserable in his

speech earlier today when he was

describing how tough government makes

his life you know as the title of his

speech seemed to hint um have any of the

PFS speakers appeared sad about

government i don’t think so Everyone

here appears to enjoy the absurdity of

government and to enjoy enjoy speaking

against

it Uh but I understand that many people

here need to believe that they can make

a difference by influencing others And

of

course being a man I I don’t expect to

change your minds So to offer you people

something from this talk um I recommend

that you learn all you can about the

Western Australian mining magnate Gina

Reinhardt Being the richest woman in the

world she is getting increasing

international media attention and many

uh news reports predict her becoming the

richest person in the world in the not

too distant future She is now an even

bigger prospect for bringing on the

libertarian revolution than Ron Paul I I

discovered an interview in an Australian

women’s magazine in

1975 where she said that she listed her

occupation on her passport as

secessionist Her father was not afraid

to call Australia’s political parties

public servants industry groups

university students and journalists all

a bunch of socialists And Mrs Reinhardt

is is definitely a big fan of her

father’s politics Moreover she is

spending hundreds of millions of dollars

trying to get media influence although

none of that’s come to me Um so I hope

all you uh I hope you all you optimists

out there feel that you’ve got something

out of this talk Um in

conclusion menians might hope that

libertarian progress will be made even

if that will unfortunately compromise

our gargantuan enjoyment watching the

greedy and gullible passionately support

people who will be betray them in our

gloriously corrupt and unprincipled

commonwealth of morons for a manin

phrase So we can hope manians can hope

for libertarian progress but we don’t

expect any progress but to repeat that

does not mean that there are not many

other reasons for being a libertarian

theorist in shitster and uh one of the

best of those reasons would be to enjoy

yourself at hoppers property and freedom

society Thank you

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